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English to Chinese: Valuable lies General field: Marketing Detailed field: Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Source text - English 0001 00:00:14:24 00:00:18:24 project Valuable Lies 0002 00:00:21:06 00:00:25:10 There are many designers who I think are better than me. 0003 00:00:27:17 00:00:31:12 Marcel Wanders designer 0004 00:00:34:15 00:00:38:17 People always say you should concentrate on your talent. 0005 00:00:38:20 00:00:44:22 But I've always done the opposite. I always concentrate on what I can't do. 0006 00:00:45:00 00:00:51:05 For if I always learn what I can't do, removing the obstacles in my way... 0007 00:00:51:08 00:00:56:10 then my talent automatically grows. That's my talent, that gives me wings. 0008 00:00:56:13 00:01:00:16 As a designer Marcel Wanders came of age in the nineties... 0009 00:01:00:19 00:01:05:02 making conceptual designs for amongst others, Droog. 0010 00:01:05:05 00:01:08:15 Since that time Wanders has expanded his practice... 0011 00:01:08:18 00:01:13:13 to become a worldwide, commercial success with his design label Moooi. 0012 00:01:14:13 00:01:19:20 Every year Wanders presents the newest designs to an international audience... 0013 00:01:19:23 00:01:22:15 during the design week in Milan. 0014 00:01:24:00 00:01:29:06 No one likes going to fairs. It's always a drag. You always walk your legs off. 0015 00:01:29:09 00:01:33:00 But everybody loves Milan. It's the most fun fair in the world. 0016 00:01:33:03 00:01:35:11 Not just for the parties. It's just great fun. 0017 00:01:35:14 00:01:40:19 Very exciting, creative, a lot to see. Rather unique, really. 0018 00:01:46:00 00:01:51:04 Fifteen years ago I saw that we live in a design culture... 0019 00:01:51:07 00:01:54:20 which is constantly focused on making new things. 0020 00:01:54:23 00:01:59:24 But I realized that nothing ages faster than what's new. 0021 00:02:00:02 00:02:05:04 We constantly make things that basically say that there is no past... 0022 00:02:05:07 00:02:09:24 and thereby we ignore that the things we make will have a past. 0023 00:02:10:02 00:02:15:14 In all the projects I do I build in old metaphors. 0024 00:02:15:17 00:02:19:10 I build in things that come from the past... 0025 00:02:19:13 00:02:25:08 because I realize that if I show respect for the past and the future in the project... 0026 00:02:25:11 00:02:30:06 it won't be old any differently tomorrow than it already was today... 0027 00:02:30:09 00:02:35:13 and that way it will be capable of withstanding the passing of time. 0028 00:02:37:00 00:02:45:02 I want the things we make to give you something to see, feel and think. 0029 00:02:45:05 00:02:47:18 That you have at least those three tracks... 0030 00:02:47:21 00:02:52:22 on which to experience and relate to them. 0031 00:02:56:03 00:02:59:14 The Knotted Chair is a product that attracts all kinds of people. 0032 00:02:59:17 00:03:05:14 One person just looks at it and sees the materiality, the knots and their shadows. 0033 00:03:05:17 00:03:09:01 Another only wants to understand and keeps asking what it is... 0034 00:03:09:04 00:03:13:04 what kind of rope it is, why I do this and how it's put together. 0035 00:03:13:07 00:03:19:14 Someone else wants to touch it and feel how light it is, its tactility. 0036 00:03:19:17 00:03:21:16 And all those aspects are there. 0037 00:03:21:19 00:03:26:04 It's a rational thing, but it doesn't live just by virtue of its rationality. 0038 00:03:29:22 00:03:33:19 If we start telling the truth, it doesn't make it exciting. 0039 00:03:33:22 00:03:38:06 We have to tell a lie. We have to tell valuable lies. 0040 00:03:41:03 00:03:44:15 The headquarters of Moooi are located in Amsterdam. 0041 00:03:44:18 00:03:47:09 Moooi’s product line is very diverse... 0042 00:03:47:12 00:03:53:05 from furniture to cosmetics, form tableware to entire interiors. 0043 00:03:56:20 00:03:59:24 We're always working on all kinds of projects. 0044 00:04:00:02 00:04:06:24 A lot of furniture. For M.A.C we did makeup. 0045 00:04:07:02 00:04:10:16 A skin care collection for a Japanese company. Perfume. 0046 00:04:10:19 00:04:14:10 A two-component perfume, so two bottles at the same time. 0047 00:04:14:13 00:04:19:08 For KLM we did the tableware for the Business Class. 0048 00:04:19:11 00:04:22:08 It's fun to do different things all the time. 0049 00:04:22:11 00:04:27:18 And we've become really good at that, coming up with something new each time. 0050 00:04:27:21 00:04:31:19 A lot of the things we do are experimental things. 0051 00:04:31:22 00:04:37:11 We let others make the prototypes, but if they're too experimental to do so... 0052 00:04:37:14 00:04:43:05 because no company does such things, like these kinds of crazy pieces... 0053 00:04:43:08 00:04:47:15 that's always an ongoing investigation we're constantly engaged in. 0054 00:04:51:03 00:04:54:14 It's a kind of struggle I go through. 0055 00:04:54:17 00:04:59:14 In the studio we're really like engineers all day long. 0056 00:04:59:17 00:05:03:15 We spend all day thinking about screws, how to put things together, weight. 0057 00:05:03:18 00:05:09:23 How to do it faster or better, how to do it for the price we want to ask in the stores. 0058 00:05:10:01 00:05:13:06 But we try never to talk about that to the outside world. 0059 00:05:13:09 00:05:16:20 I don't want to discuss that with my public. 0060 00:05:16:23 00:05:20:21 For my public that's extremely uninteresting. 0061 00:05:20:24 00:05:27:08 But it is the daily reality. We're really making things all day. 0062 00:05:27:11 00:05:31:06 Selecting what screws to use. 0063 00:05:39:19 00:05:45:23 A project is like a box you get from your client with the pieces of a puzzle inside. 0064 00:05:46:01 00:05:51:05 You throw all those pieces in a pile and then you have to assemble the puzzle. 0065 00:05:51:08 00:05:55:09 So you look at the cover of the box at what your example is... 0066 00:05:55:12 00:05:58:04 and there's nothing there. 0067 00:05:58:07 00:06:04:01 So then you just have to put together a puzzle out of those 20,000 pieces... 0068 00:06:04:04 00:06:07:19 probably using only 200 of them. 0069 00:06:07:22 00:06:13:06 A freestanding object, which you have to be able to move. 0070 00:06:13:09 00:06:18:23 Those pieces of the puzzle you have are possibilities, thoughts, topicalities... 0071 00:06:19:01 00:06:25:02 and if you can fit all those aspects into a puzzle... 0072 00:06:25:05 00:06:29:23 and the last piece fits, that's an addictive emotion... 0073 00:06:30:01 00:06:35:22 that's sheer happiness, that moment that you think 'yes', I’ve done it.	Translation - Chinese 0001 00:00:14:24 00:00:18:24 Valuable Lies 有价值的谎言项目 0002 00:00:21:06 00:00:25:10 我想，很多设计师比我强 0003 00:00:27:17 00:00:31:12 Marcel Wanders 设计师 0004 00:00:34:15 00:00:38:17 人们常说你应该注重你的才能 0005 00:00:38:20 00:00:44:22 而我总是相反我总是关注我哪方面不行 0006 00:00:45:00 00:00:51:05 因为我如果每次发现我哪方面不行那么我就能去除阻碍我发展的障碍 0007 00:00:51:08 00:00:56:10 我的才能就自然增长了这就是让我飞翔的才能 0008 00:00:56:13 00:01:00:16 Marcel Wanders在九十年代成名 0009 00:01:00:19 00:01:05:02 他的成名作包括为Droog所作的这些概念设计 0010 00:01:05:05 00:01:08:15 自此以后，他拓宽了他的设计范围 0011 00:01:08:18 00:01:13:13 在商务方面，他的设计商标Moooi 在全球都很成功 0012 00:01:14:13 00:01:19:20 每年的米兰设计周他都要向国际观众 0013 00:01:19:23 00:01:22:15 展示他的最新设计成果 0014 00:01:24:00 00:01:29:06 没人喜欢去展览会你走得累死，很讨厌 0015 00:01:29:09 00:01:33:00 但大家都喜欢米兰展览会这是世界上最有意思的展览会 0016 00:01:33:03 00:01:35:11 不仅是业务而且很有意思 0017 00:01:35:14 00:01:40:19 很多新的创作，令人兴奋非常特别 0018 00:01:46:00 00:01:51:04 十五年前我就看到我们生活在这样一种设计气氛中 0019 00:01:51:07 00:01:54:20 大家总是只注重制作新的东西 0020 00:01:54:23 00:01:59:24 但我意识到新的最容易变成旧的 0021 00:02:00:02 00:02:05:04 我们制作新东西，声称它们没有过去 0022 00:02:05:07 00:02:09:24 实际上我们就否认了我们制作的东西将成为过去 0023 00:02:10:02 00:02:15:14 在我所有的项目中我都使用旧的暗喻 0024 00:02:15:17 00:02:19:10 在我的设计中使用来自过去的东西 0025 00:02:19:13 00:02:25:08 因为我意识到在项目中如果我尊重过去和未来 0026 00:02:25:11 00:02:30:06 那么它们到了明天就依然和今天一样旧 0027 00:02:30:09 00:02:35:13 这样它们就能承受时间的考验 0028 00:02:37:00 00:02:45:02 我要我们制作的东西能在视觉、触觉、思考这三个方面 0029 00:02:45:05 00:02:47:18 让人们能够经验这些东西 0030 00:02:47:21 00:02:52:22 向人们在这三方面有所表达 0031 00:02:56:03 00:02:59:14 The Knotted Chair（绳结椅）这个作品吸引了各种人 0032 00:02:59:17 00:03:05:14 有些人在视觉上感受它的材料绳结和光影 0033 00:03:05:17 00:03:09:01 另一些人只想理解总是问这是什么、我为什么这样做 0034 00:03:09:04 00:03:13:04 哪种绳子、是怎样制作的 0035 00:03:13:07 00:03:19:14 还有人只想触摸它感觉它的轻巧、它的手感 0036 00:03:19:17 00:03:21:16 这个作品三方面都完美 0037 00:03:21:19 00:03:26:04 这是一个符合理性的作品但它的存在并不仅仅依赖于理性 0038 00:03:29:22 00:03:33:19 如果我们只是说老实话不会吸引人 0039 00:03:33:22 00:03:38:06 我们必须制造谎言制造有价值的谎言 0040 00:03:41:03 00:03:44:15 Moooi的总部位于阿姆斯特丹 0041 00:03:44:18 00:03:47:09 Moooi的产品线很多样化 0042 00:03:47:12 00:03:53:05 从家具到化妆品从餐具到完整的室内装修 0043 00:03:56:20 00:03:59:24 我们总是在搞很多不同的项目 0044 00:04:00:02 00:04:06:24 很多家具为M.A.C.设计的化妆品 0045 00:04:07:02 00:04:10:16 一家日本公司的系列护肤品还有香水 0046 00:04:10:19 00:04:14:10 两瓶一组的香水 0047 00:04:14:13 00:04:19:08 为荷航商务舱设计的餐具 0048 00:04:19:11 00:04:22:08 原则上讲不断做不同项目很有意思 0049 00:04:22:11 00:04:27:18 我们也很善于搞不同的项目每次做新的设计 0050 00:04:27:21 00:04:31:19 我们的很多设计是实验性的 0051 00:04:31:22 00:04:37:11 成品模本我们让别人做实验性的设计不能让别人做 0052 00:04:37:14 00:04:43:05 因为没有公司会做象这种狂想作品（crazy pieces） 0053 00:04:43:08 00:04:47:15 这属于探讨我们总是在进行这样的探讨 0054 00:04:51:03 00:04:54:14 在设计室这个战场中我们就像是工程师 0055 00:04:54:17 00:04:59:14 我们想的是，怎样把部件联系起来什么样的螺丝 0056 00:04:59:17 00:05:03:15 怎样做的更轻一点更好一点 0057 00:05:03:18 00:05:09:23 更快一点成本和价格 0058 00:05:10:01 00:05:13:06 但对外界我们从不谈这些 0059 00:05:13:09 00:05:16:20 和外界我最不想谈这些 0060 00:05:16:23 00:05:20:21 对公众来说这些方面很枯燥无趣 0061 00:05:20:24 00:05:27:08 但这是我们每天面对的现实我们每天都在制作 0062 00:05:27:11 00:05:31:06 选择什么样的螺丝等等 0063 00:05:39:19 00:05:45:23 一个项目就像从客户那儿收到一盒拼图 0064 00:05:46:01 00:05:51:05 盒子倒出来的一堆图片你必须把它们拼成一张完整的图 0065 00:05:51:08 00:05:55:09 你如果想在包装盒子上找样图 0066 00:05:55:12 00:05:58:04 没有样图 0067 00:05:58:07 00:06:04:01 现在你必须自己拼图也许那两万个图片中 0068 00:06:04:04 00:06:07:19 最终只有两百个部件有用 0069 00:06:07:22 00:06:13:06 一个独立的物件应该能随便移动 0070 00:06:13:09 00:06:18:23 你面前的图片、你的想法各种可能性、时间、材料 0071 00:06:19:01 00:06:25:02 所有这些因素都是这个拼图的部分图片 0072 00:06:25:05 00:06:29:23 当你放下最后一片终于完成了拼图 0073 00:06:30:01 00:06:35:22 这是一种很能让人上瘾的感觉终于成了！很奇异的感觉

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