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Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

"fare spazio pubblico"

English translation:

Making/ Creating Public Space

Added to glossary by James (Jim) Davis
Jul 11, 2007 17:01
16 yrs ago
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Italian term

"fare spazio pubblico"

Italian to English Social Sciences Architecture Planning and community involvement
"Gli argomenti e le questioni affrontate sono molteplici e propongono un ventaglio di temi, possibilità e modalità di azione, strumenti e iniziative, che vanno a comporre un repertorio idee per “fare spazio pubblico”, promuovere la qualità della vita e il benessere nei quartieri, che viene proposta in questa sezione."

"Fare Spazio Pubblico" is also in the title and "spazio pubblico" is in the title and all over the text.
Sono urbanisti che seguono metodi partecipativi.

To give an idea of what I'm looking for:
I translated for academic readers. Some native English speaking readers in the project complained that they wanted something more "user friendly" for a wider audience. Things like Foucault's "responsibilisation", didn't exactly go down a bomb, told me the word didn't exist.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 Making/ Creating Public Space
3 +2 making space(s) public
4 creation of an area for the public
3 -1 public domain

Discussion

TrueBaller Jul 11, 2007:
Jim, Shera, Sorry if you received several e-mail notifications. For some reason, the links that I attached to my comment to Shera were not working. I had to make sure they did.
TrueBaller Jul 11, 2007:
Thank you very much for sharing the information on M. Foucault's theory with me. Good luck with the work. Cheers.
James (Jim) Davis (asker) Jul 11, 2007:
The link was very useful. I've been narrowing my research, necessarily down to the UK, where it will be read. but it seems that concept is strong in the US and is only just being introduced at Gov level in the UK. As for responsibilisation, it is a key concept in the French philosopher,Michel Foucault's (taught at Berkeley -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governmentality ) theory of Governmentality, would you believe. Influential in new labour politics in the UK at academic level.
TrueBaller Jul 11, 2007:
Jim, I'm sorry the readers are giving you a hard time. Maybe you should share the links below with them for a better idea of the terms. I am sure you agree: it is very self-explanatory. As for "responsibilisation", the correct word is "responsibility".

Proposed translations

+1
15 mins
Selected

Making/ Creating Public Space

Here is a couple of articles that can help in understanding what it means:

http://www.pps.org/
http://www.pps.org/info/aboutpps/about
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/aw/rr/rbrownfields/greenspace/gs-01-17...

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Note added at 16 mins (2007-07-11 17:17:52 GMT)
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sorry for the typo: Here are* a couple... I started with one link and then found more...
Note from asker:
I have a fair idea of what it means Mimoza, but the ammo is useful. That is exactly how I translated it first time round. The reader's comment was "What does this term mean?".
Yes that's what I thought Ivana, public space is public space. I did wonder if my mind had flipped with all the financial reports, or maybe we've both flipped :).
Peer comment(s):
agree Ivana UK : "the creation of public space" - I can't see how else you could possibly translate - public space is public space - that's the term ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_space and http://www.cleanersafergreener.gov.uk/en/1/pslcreationofpubl...
1 hr
Exactly. Thanks Ivana!
agree Jim Tucker (X) : yes - would use "create" rather than "make" - trans. should tell reader that "public space" is standard terminolgy. I do lots of architecture texts and I don't know how many thousands of times I've used it.
15 hrs
Thank, Jim. Much appreciated.
disagree Ashish (HIN,ENG) Nadia (ITA) : i feel that the emphasis as brought out by the context is naunced and is not conveyed conceptually in this particular interpretation
628 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you very much Mimoza and everybody else. My reader will just have to accept it."
-1
59 mins

public domain

ideas in the public domain
sharing in the public domain
You might take this and adapt it to each situation. Just an idea.

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-11 18:04:12 GMT)
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"open space" is another concept you might want to explore. I am aware it refers to a specific methodology of sharing and discussion, but the term and the concept might give you some ideas
for info see: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology

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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-07-11 19:03:53 GMT)
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Basically, this was to introduce some "lateral thinking" to the concept.
Information and knowledge in many other fields can also be in the public domain.

see

Electrochemistry public domain information on the Internet: bibliographies, software, physical/chemical data.
electrochem.cwru.edu/estir/pdi.htm -

Public Domain Knowledge Bank [email protected]. The purpose of this web site is to support the efforts of the members of the PDKB mailing list. ...
robustai.net/pdkb/index.htm

Placing our knowledge into the public domain turns it into a freely available resource for commercial utilization. Thus, it also creates the pre-condition ...
www.ohchr.org/english/issues/indigenous/docs/wgip23/crp3.do...
Note from asker:
I did consider public domain, but as mimoza says, its a copyright patent term, while open space technology is a communication technique.
Peer comment(s):
neutral TrueBaller : Public domain is the term mostly used in works of art: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain; http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/; http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/training/Hirtle_Public_Doma...
6 mins
thanks Mimoza - see comment above
disagree Jim Tucker (X) : context is about physical space and neighborhoods
19 hrs
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+2
2 hrs

making space(s) public

Hi Jim,

What about maintaining the order of the Italian notions, which keeps the end-focus on "public" while at the same time making the English a little less arty-farty?

FWIW

Giles
Note from asker:
Interesting idea, but might confuse the issue.
Peer comment(s):
agree Rachel Fell : tend to agree, though know "public space" is one of those themes
29 mins
agree Ashish (HIN,ENG) Nadia (ITA) : i agree quite wholeheartedly as the context does suggest the same to someone from an architectural background like me especially when read with the closing words 'promuovere la qualità della vita e il benessere nei quartieri' 'user-friendly' stayss a ?
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14 hrs

creation of an area for the public

another idea
Note from asker:
Thanks for the suggestion, Peter. It's a sweet and simple answer to "what does it mean?"
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