Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
assistenza contraria
English translation:
Audit inspections on behalf of the shipowner, unless otherwise specified
Added to glossary by
Jennifer Roma
Aug 14, 2015 13:55
8 yrs ago
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Italian term
United States
assistenza contraria
Italian to English
Law/Patents
Safety
Inspections required by Italian law
Ciao a tutti! Avrei bisogno di una mano con questa frase, "assistenza contraria". Nel documento che sto traducendo (un corso sulla sicurezza per i lavoratori di un'azienda), appare nella descrizione delle mansioni di un "Corporate Shipbuilding Inspector" (nel documento originale il nome della posizione è in inglese, anche se il resto è in italiano).
Originale:
"Corporate Shipbuilding Inspector: Appartengono a questa categoria quel gruppo di lavoratori che svolgono la loro attività quasi esclusivamente presso i cantieri navali di costruzione e ristrutturazione navi, con compiti ispettivi e funzione di sorveglianza e assistenza contraria per conto armatore."
Mio tentativo di traduzione:
"Corporate Shipbuilding Inspector: This category includes all those employees whose tasks are performed almost exclusively at the construction and refurbishment shipyards. Their responsibilities include inspections, surveillance and ................. on behalf of the shipowner."
I would include an attempt at translating the term itself, but I really have no idea what it might mean, and the context provides no help. Moreover, there are only 45 Google hits for the phrase on the web. All of these are in the context of inspections...
Has anyone here seen this term before? Any help – if not a translation, even just an explanation I could work with – would be appreciated!
Grazie mille!
(The term also appears in Art. 32 of this document online and other similar documents, but the context does not shed much light on the meaning, at least for me: http://www.taggia.it/_Rainbow/Documents/RG02 Capitolato spec...
Originale:
"Corporate Shipbuilding Inspector: Appartengono a questa categoria quel gruppo di lavoratori che svolgono la loro attività quasi esclusivamente presso i cantieri navali di costruzione e ristrutturazione navi, con compiti ispettivi e funzione di sorveglianza e assistenza contraria per conto armatore."
Mio tentativo di traduzione:
"Corporate Shipbuilding Inspector: This category includes all those employees whose tasks are performed almost exclusively at the construction and refurbishment shipyards. Their responsibilities include inspections, surveillance and ................. on behalf of the shipowner."
I would include an attempt at translating the term itself, but I really have no idea what it might mean, and the context provides no help. Moreover, there are only 45 Google hits for the phrase on the web. All of these are in the context of inspections...
Has anyone here seen this term before? Any help – if not a translation, even just an explanation I could work with – would be appreciated!
Grazie mille!
(The term also appears in Art. 32 of this document online and other similar documents, but the context does not shed much light on the meaning, at least for me: http://www.taggia.it/_Rainbow/Documents/RG02 Capitolato spec...
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | Audit inspections by owner |
Cedric Randolph
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| 3 | counter inspections |
Adriana Esposito
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| 3 | xy unless otherwise specified on behalf of the shipowner |
Inter-Tra
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Proposed translations
18 hrs
Cedric Randolph
Italy
Italy
Native in Italian
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English
Italy
Reliable, punctual and accurate
Native in: English (Variants: US, UK) 
, Italian
Works in: Italian to English
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Audit inspections by owner
often performed by classification societies,
see site below.
This is most likely what this stipulation is referring to.
see site below.
This is most likely what this stipulation is referring to.
Note from asker:
| Thank you very much, Cedric! Your input was very helpful, and reading about the classification societies gave me a better understanding of the topic. I have decided to use a combination of your answer and the one provided by fbbest, and translate "assistenza contraria" as "audit inspections on behalf of the shipowner, unless otherwise specified". Grazie mille per il prezioso aiuto! |
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Comment: "Your suggestion and the information about classification societies provided the missing links I needed to understand and translate this term. Thank you!"
7 hrs
counter inspections
Ciao Jennifer, credo di aver capito che si tratta di verifiche che vengono effettuate dall'appaltante per accertare che l'appaltatore svolta la sua opera come previsto.
Mi sono imbattuta, cercando in rete, in questo "counter inspection", in francese "contre-visite".
Il secondo link è un estratto da un libro, coo la definizione di counter-inspections" che mi sembra faccia proprio al caso tuo..
Buon lavoro!
Mi sono imbattuta, cercando in rete, in questo "counter inspection", in francese "contre-visite".
Il secondo link è un estratto da un libro, coo la definizione di counter-inspections" che mi sembra faccia proprio al caso tuo..
Buon lavoro!
Note from asker:
| Grazie, Adriana! This seems like a good guess, and certainly the closest thing I've seen so far, but I must admit that I am not convinced by the sources. The only documents in which it appears seem to be translations of unverified quality from Ukrainian, French and Tajik. They appear to deal with government-mandated inspections as opposed to inspections to safeguard the contracting party. Thank you for your input! I'm going to do a little more research... |
23 hrs
xy unless otherwise specified on behalf of the shipowner
This might be also a solution.
they may have a double role
they may have a double role
Note from asker:
| Grazie mille, fbbest! The combination of the answers provided by you and Cedric have helped me to understand the topic, and I have decided to translate "assistenza contraria" with a phrase that is a combination of both of your suggestions: "audit inspections on behalf of the shipowner, unless otherwise specified". Thanks so much for helping me work out a very tricky problem! |
Discussion
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/italian_to_english/law_general/408...
The implication being not so much a meeting as a formal hearing in a dispute, where both sides present their case. But I'm not sure.