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arterm 
Serbia
Local time: 06:46
English to Russian
TOPIC STARTER | http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en003.html | Oct 29, 2008 |
yonyon wrote:
Have you already gone to buy the pass?
You don't pay anything for your 1.5-year-old son. JR does not charge until the child turns 6.
Hi Yonyon!
This is very interesting.
The following link does not specify child age and one of only tree agencies in Russia who sell JR passes asks to pay half price for the kid.
http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en003.html
I have also found at http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/charge/result.asp
that the child price is half of the adult price, with amounts of five yen or less rounded off.
But maybe all that does not apply for a kid who is less than 6 years old?
If you are right then the situation greatly changes for us.
In any event we decided not to rush with the tickets and buy them when we get visas.
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Local time: 14:46
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| Useful website | Oct 29, 2008 |
Oh good, I caught you before you bought the pass for your child.
http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/ticket/types.html
Here is the explanation of the infant and child fares.
It also explains Suica, the prepaid rail card I explained earlier.
You might look at th... See more Oh good, I caught you before you bought the pass for your child.
http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/ticket/types.html
Here is the explanation of the infant and child fares.
It also explains Suica, the prepaid rail card I explained earlier.
You might look at this website too.
http://www.japantravelinfo.com/top/index.php
A few years ago, the Japanease government did imbound tourism promotion and developed this site. It may have useful information for you. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Your 1.5 years old child travels for free - do not buy a ticket | Oct 29, 2008 |
ARTEM SEDOV wrote:
We have managed to reserve JR Pass for 283 USD per adult for 7 days and for 140 USD for the kid
Atrem, in my first reply I told you you don't need to buy a ticket for your son. The link I gave you there shows that they only charge for kinds over age 6. The only exception is when 1 adult is with a group of kids under the age of 6, then they have to pay some, but that is not your case.
So to sum up:
Then in Kyoto we would use the JR Pass to reserve the reserved seats to Tokyo. By the way, maybe we could reserve the seats from Tokyo during the day of arrival with this JR Pass?
Yes, you can do it, as long as you know which day and about what time you want to travel, you should be able to pick a train and reserve the seats.
| | | | arterm
Serbia
Local time: 06:46
English to Russian
TOPIC STARTER | Shall work this out | Oct 29, 2008 |
Thank you Katalin and Yonyon for your kind support
I am overwhelmed by the information about these passes and shall discover things you suggested more carefully to avoid further mistakes
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arterm
Serbia
Local time: 06:46
English to Russian
TOPIC STARTER | $100 for baby seat rental! | Nov 6, 2008 |
Russian guide is asking $100 for baby seat rental in a car per day (in addition to $500 to $700 for the excursion itself)
Is this realistic? The whole seat costs max $100 in Russia and I guess I could buy it and trash afterwards in Japan.
| | | | KathyT
Australia
Local time: 14:46
Japanese to English
| That's outrageous! | Nov 6, 2008 |
It has to be a mistake!!
We rented a car last year and (sorry, my memory's a little hazy, but) I'm pretty sure it was only something like JPY 100 per day (approx. USD 1 at the time) for a baby seat.
I think we paid around USD 10 for 10 days or thereabouts.
Make sure you get them to set it up for you before they leave you there with the keys! (We found that they were quite different to the ones we were used to!)
G'luck!
| | | | arterm
Serbia
Local time: 06:46
English to Russian
TOPIC STARTER | this is no mistake but an irony of using Russian guides | Nov 6, 2008 |
Hi Kathy,
This is just how Russian guides work they are quite positive about that. They seem to be exclusive and waiting for some tycoons maybe.
I guess we wont vote for Russian guides at all and will just rely on English speaking service providers in Japan which are priced much more reasonably.
| | | | | They are trying to rip you off pretty good | Nov 6, 2008 |
Artem,
I guess by now you realized that, too.
It seems to me these people are trying to take advantage of tourists that are not familiar with the local territory, including prices and such and perhaps prefer paying the big buck just so they won't have to worry about details...
Japan is not cheap, but so far what they told you were over the top, I think.
What excursion is that for $500-$700? How long and what does it include?
Katalin
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arterm
Serbia
Local time: 06:46
English to Russian
TOPIC STARTER | russian guides and offers | Nov 6, 2008 |
Hi Katalin,
We have called and emailed several Russian guides who advertise at various places in the net and also gathered information from Russian agencies.
If we want a Russian speaking guide the excursion prices vary between 300 EUR to 700 EUR per person. They do not seem to offer large group excursions for Russians or I cant yet find this information.
The cheapest we found so far is 400 EUR (around 650 USD) (not yet sure if they will also ask 100 EUR for the k... See more Hi Katalin,
We have called and emailed several Russian guides who advertise at various places in the net and also gathered information from Russian agencies.
If we want a Russian speaking guide the excursion prices vary between 300 EUR to 700 EUR per person. They do not seem to offer large group excursions for Russians or I cant yet find this information.
The cheapest we found so far is 400 EUR (around 650 USD) (not yet sure if they will also ask 100 EUR for the kid seat) for three of us.
These are around 6 to 8 hours tours. Not all of them are car based, some are on the short distance train. Some ask also to add 900 EUR per day to the excursion price for the car itself thus totaling to 1300 EUR (no food included and sometimes not even entry tickets)!
Etc. Etc. I understand the Japan is not a cheap country but these offers are amazing and I wonder how many Russians can afford it (average salary in my city of million inhabitants is around 500 USD). We travel rather extensively and never heard of prices like that though we sometimes choose primary and private service.
I have compared these offers to what English speaking guides offer and found that they would fit in the range of 150 USD to 300 EUR for a day trip for three of us, which is quite reasonable.
English group excursions cost even less: around 60 USD per person as I can see, so I am almost sure we do not want to pay Russian guides if we can manage with English guides.
The only problem is that my wife is not bilingual and while she knows English and Spanish and now reads Japanese wordbook every day it could be hard for her to have English excursions and I would need to interpret for her probably.
So we are thinking of hiring a good English tutor for my wife to ease the choice as for the price they ask for a Russian excursion we can get a month of English lessons for Irina here even from a native speaker, I think. And this is really funny.
That is the story so far.
I shall keep you posted as we are now waiting for our visas and Japan embassy counts as a tough one for Russians.
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| | | | | Why not look for help among ProZians? | Nov 6, 2008 |
Artem,
I am not sure what kind of experience you are looking for, but you may want to consider searching the ProZ directory for interpreters in Japan (in the Kyoto area or wherever you go). I am sure there are books about the famous tourist places either in English or in Russian, so what you need help with is getting to places, finding places to eat (translate menus, talk to the waiters), and perhaps translating a few things at the actual attraction (such as signs about artifacts). So, so... See more Artem,
I am not sure what kind of experience you are looking for, but you may want to consider searching the ProZ directory for interpreters in Japan (in the Kyoto area or wherever you go). I am sure there are books about the famous tourist places either in English or in Russian, so what you need help with is getting to places, finding places to eat (translate menus, talk to the waiters), and perhaps translating a few things at the actual attraction (such as signs about artifacts). So, sort of an escort interpreting, in a family setting.
Face it, you won't be able to digest ten-thousand little details about the things you will see, so a large portion of what a guide would be saying would go into outer space anyway (if you know what I mean). For example, at the shrines and similar sacred places, you may be actually better off just quietly observing, and letting yourself enjoy the experience and get a feeling of it all. Your interpreter may answer questions you have, and that may be better than listening to a pre-rehearsed speech at high speed in a singing tone...
At least for me, there were many places in Kyoto that I enjoyed because I let myself to be influenced by the whole atmosphere, instead of somebody saying "blah-blah-blah" about the details of the hundreds of people involved in its construction, or other stuff. Please do not misunderstand, I am interested and appreciate such information, but my experience is that getting all that poured on my by a guide is less effective than looking it up myself either before or after seeing the place. Or even right there, sitting down with the guidebook.
But it maybe just me. ▲ Collapse
| | | | arterm
Serbia
Local time: 06:46
English to Russian
TOPIC STARTER | I see your point Kataline | Nov 6, 2008 |
I think you are right and I also want to have some time for relaxation with my family and just being able to get to a quiet and beautiful place to spend a pleasant calm day would suit for most cases
I shall now think of what kind of service like escort interpreting you mentioned I might try to seek from prozians in Japan
I really appreciate your idea
| | | | arterm
Serbia
Local time: 06:46
English to Russian
TOPIC STARTER | I see your point Katalin | Nov 6, 2008 |
I think you are right and I also want to have some time for relaxation with my family and just being able to get to a quiet and beautiful place to spend a pleasant calm day would suit for most cases
I shall now think of what kind of service like escort interpreting you mentioned I might try to seek from prozians in Japan
I really appreciate your idea
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arterm
Serbia
Local time: 06:46
English to Russian
TOPIC STARTER | thank you for your help, our trip was very nice | Jan 25, 2009 |
Dear Friends,
Thanks to your advise our trip was amazing!
Arterm
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