Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
materie prime vinose
English translation:
raw materials for winemaking
Added to glossary by
Yasutomo Kanazawa
Jan 30, 2009 08:07
15 yrs ago
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Italian term
Italy
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Native in: English (Variants: UK, British)
Works in: Italian to English, English
materie prime vinose
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Wine / Oenology / Viticulture
"Descrizione del processo produttivo: i flussi delle ***materie prime vinose***, dei materiali, dei semilavorati e dei prodotti realizzati sono descritti nella Planimetria aziendale".
If this is something like "raw materials for winemaking", how is that distinguished from the "materiali" which follows?
And are they talking about something on the level of grapes and yeast, or (on the other hand) something which has already undegone some basic processing, like skins and must?
TIA :o)
If this is something like "raw materials for winemaking", how is that distinguished from the "materiali" which follows?
And are they talking about something on the level of grapes and yeast, or (on the other hand) something which has already undegone some basic processing, like skins and must?
TIA :o)
Proposed translations
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| 5 +1 | raw materials for winemaking |
Yasutomo Kanazawa
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| 5 | must |
Peter Cox
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| 4 +1 | grapes |
Dave Henderson
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Change log
Feb 2, 2009 11:20: Yasutomo Kanazawa Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Yasutomo Kanazawa
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raw materials for winemaking
materie prime means raw materials, so your guess is correct.
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Note added at 19 mins (2009-01-30 08:27:09 GMT)
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Description of the productive process: the flow of "raw materials for winemaking", of the materials, of the half processing and the finished product are described in the Planimetria Co.
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Note added at 19 mins (2009-01-30 08:27:09 GMT)
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Description of the productive process: the flow of "raw materials for winemaking", of the materials, of the half processing and the finished product are described in the Planimetria Co.
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks everyone. I felt it best to err on the side of caution given the lack of context and go with something more general."
2 hrs
must
Peer comment(s):
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lingualabo
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| disagree |
Rod Nelson
: But "must" isn't a raw material, it's a by-product.
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Dave Henderson
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grapes
I appreciate that materie prime vinose could refer to must, but coming as it does at the beginning of the series, I would tend to regard it as the first item in the wine-making filiera, namely the first raw material, the fruit itself. Thus, the semilavorati would refer to the "half-way" product, the must. I have seen--and have translated--materia prima as grapes, but I can't put my electronic finger on an example at the moment--no time, sorry.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-01-30 15:53:06 GMT)
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Here's just one example: Si sente ripetere continuamente che la qualità si fa in vigna , ma quanti, nella realtà, si preoccupano della qualità della materia prima? Tanto, si sa, con materia prima mediocre, in cantina il wine-maker riesce sempre ad ottenere un vino sicuramente corretto, buono, anche se anonimo e senza caratterizzazione.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-01-30 15:53:06 GMT)
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Here's just one example: Si sente ripetere continuamente che la qualità si fa in vigna , ma quanti, nella realtà, si preoccupano della qualità della materia prima? Tanto, si sa, con materia prima mediocre, in cantina il wine-maker riesce sempre ad ottenere un vino sicuramente corretto, buono, anche se anonimo e senza caratterizzazione.
Peer comment(s):
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simon tanner
: must say, it seems like grapes to me too. Why beat about the bush?
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